Tuesday, June 12, 2007

The Stiles want someone investigated

But the school won't do it. Hmm, wonder why? Because maybe the path would lead to a frat brother of the victim? And we wouldn't want a nice fraternity boy to stand accused of a dirty crime like drug dealing and possible manslaughter, would we?

Here's what Jake Stiles' parents told their hometown paper, the Naperville Sun.

15 Comments:

Blogger Unknown said...

I'm still not sure how this is any of the Universities fault.

Were they in campus housing when any of this took place?

Is it the role of the University to babysit all of their precious little snowflakes for 4+ years?

Do the University police typcially investigate these types of crimes or are they handed over to the city? Do they even have the resources for this type of investigation?

7:25 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is it even normal for any drug-related death to spur an investigation of the source of the drug?

I have heard of dealers being caught in stings set up by police, but I have never heard of investigations to find the identity of the seller. I'm sure that it sometimes comes out from talking to witnesses to a crime, such as when a shooting happens over drug sales, but if it was a cash purchase I'm not sure there is any way to prove who did it.

Is it common to charge drug dealers with manslaughter?

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Prof's point isn't that SMU is to blame for the deaths, it's that SMU is (characteristically) unconvincing in its rhetoric of denial.

I couldn't agree more on that point, though I would add that SMU's police (unlike the frat-friendly administration, perhaps) are not likely to be a law-breaking (and thereby dead) student's best friend anyway. Along with faculty, DPS over there form a rather jaded front line in the constant struggle with the entitlement mentality of not a few "special" kids for whom the rules never seem to apply.

Good luck to Stiles' parents; they should demand an investigation, especially if it means that someone else's death is prevented; but they're going to have to be very, very persistent, and recognize that admin. and DPS are likely to be reticent for different reasons.

11:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The reason that they are not going after anyone is because they would never be able to convict the person that sold Mr. Stiles the drugs of any crime. They would be simply spinning their wheels in a futile fact finding mission, and that is not what the police do. Only under extreme circumstances will the state prosecute a drug dealer for supplying a fatal dose to someone, and typically it has to be under extreme circumstances such as the person supplying it knew it was likely to a lethal dose. Furthermore, with the laudry list of substances contained in the toxicology report, there is no way to decide who would have supplied the drug that lead to his death. Also, how was one person who supplied one drug supposed to know what other drugs he had taken? Our justice system is not set up to investigate and provide answers for people. It is set up to prosecute crimes for which the law can convict people, and this is a matter where they would not be able to do so. My heart goes out to the Stiles family and it is a shame that they will never be able to see what Jacob may have grown up to be. My heart also goes out to Jacob who although he made some very poor decisions was still a human being with family, friends, and loved ones. However, I think if people, including the Stiles family and SMU, want answers about what lead up to is death, that is the job of private investigators and not the authorities.

7:21 AM  
Blogger Mike M. said...

I agree that under the facts of this case, a criminal prosecution is unlikely to be successful. However, if the drugs were supplied by another SMU student, his expulsion from the university for dealing drugs is certainly appropriate. That would be an appropriate matter for SMU to investigate.

10:12 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with both anonymous and Mike M. A criminal case does seem a little extreme because it was probably more than one person who sold him the drugs; however, expulsion for students selling drugs seems more than fair.

Proving that somebody did sell the drugs could be a problem though, so expulsion probably would never happen.

4:20 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There seems to be a precedent for a punishment suitable for the crime of supplying drugs (see below link). Although the situation in the link was slightly different, the result was the same.

http://www.decaturdaily.com/decaturdaily/news/061222/frat.shtml

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